Saturday, February 19, 2011

Old posts recycled: "Common Sense" Gun Control = Heffalumps

Traveling today, so Here's some recycled Borepatch from way, way Back In The Day (I'd only been blogging maybe a couple weeks).  In other words, only me and Mom have read this.  It deserves a broader audience, although it's a really rough post, before I'd developed by veteran blogger savoir faire ...


This started out as Quote of the Day, from Bruce (with my original comment):
From the Progressive Dictionary:
Common-sense (adj.): a term used to describe laws that allow rich, white people to enjoy the exercise of their Constitutional rights, while systematically denying the same to low-income people of color.
They think that they can talk people out of it.

Socialism a failure? Gun control a failure? Schools failing? Do it again, harder. We'll talk the rubes out of it. After all, we're nicer and smarter, right? What could possibly go wrong?

That was the original post. I thought it would be quick and fun, just toss a few corroborating links and get your snark on. After going way overboard on links, I found the fun evaporated. As I read the links, I could feel my mellow (did I mention that I'm on vacation? thanks for asking!) being harshed. It became a link rant.

Of course the "progressives" are going to keep trying the same thing a different way. We have a clash of world views here. Heller is part of it, but so is Iraq, the relationship of the citizen to the government, the whole thing. When you disagree on basic premises, it's really hard to find common ground. You're messing with their faith.

So Heller's only a start. Heller isn't the beginning of the end for gun control, at best it's the end of the beginning.

Bah. My mellow was so harshed, that I had to turn to the Relevant Literature for help in dealing with liberal "Common Sense" arguments. Ta da! Instantly, all became clear, my mood lightened, a spring returned to my step, and a gleam to my eye. The problem is that we try to argue with facts (I'm looking AT YOU, Kevin). They argue with Heffalumps.
One day, when Christopher Robin and Winnie-the-Pooh and Piglet were all talking together, Christopher Robin finished the mouthful he was eating and said carelessly:

"I saw a Heffalump today, Piglet."

"What was it doing?" asked Piglet.

"Just lumping along," said Christopher Robin.

"I don't think it saw me."

"I saw one once," said Piglet. "At least, I think I did," he said. "Only perhaps it wasn't."

"So did I," said Pooh, wondering what a Heffalump was like.

"You don't often see them," said Christopher Robin carelessly.

"Not now," said Piglet.

"Not at this time of year," said Pooh.

Then they all talked about something else, until it was time for Pooh and Piglet to go home together.
Think I'm joking? The Heller dissents can only be classified as Heffalumps. Do Heffalumps self-refute?

So there, Bruce. You come at them with facts, and they'll see your facts and raise you a Heffalump.

What would I do without my kids?


NotClauswitz said...

Progressivism = intellectual finger-painting.

Kevin said...

Finger painting with poo.

Actually, Borepatch, as I've stated on repeated occasions, I'm not arguing with them so much as I'm trying to reach the undecideds. I know I can't sway the True Believers, but I can help expose them to those not yet ensnared. And I've had a little success at it, which is all the encouragement I need.

Still, I understand the frustration. Heffalumps all the way down, no doubt.

Borepatch said...

I prefer finger painting with Winnie the Pooh ...

But yeah, there's no bridging the gap to people who made their decision based on emotion. Or if so, it would be a "Cornered Cat" style shock therapy treatment.

What I can't stand is that most of these people are absolutely convinced that they're smarter and more rational than us.

Blue said...

Liberals just hate facts.... Funny, eh?

I like Eore.....

Kevin said...

Reality is the murder of a beautiful theory by a gang of ugly facts.

Theory and reality are only theoretically related.

In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.

In practice there is.

(WV: "dogoo" - what the dog returns to in Kipling's Gods of the Copybook Headings

TheMinuteman said...

Kevin, that last comment was spoken like a true practicing engineer. :)

And my instructors all wondered why I looked at most of them like they were nuts. Many of them had never worked in industry or been out for so long they forgot that important detail.