I actually think that this post is free of the tribal bias that he posits (correctly) as the major impediment to conversation. Like I said, I think that you can give this to any of your friends who are open minded and they will read it through.We humans are a funny lot. We like to think that we’ve evolved beyond the animals around us – and in large part, we have. However, it never ceases to amuse me how we can all be so quick to fall back into tribalist mindsets and start flinging poo at each other over things in which we disagree. It is even funnier when you consider that half the time, we are arguing past each other, and aren't even bothering to understand what the guy we're arguing with is actually trying to say..One of the more polarized poo-flinging contests of late has been the debate over global warming. This one, too, causes me to laugh quite often. These are the 5 reasons that we will never be able to have a constructive discussion about global warming.
I'd suggest that two more issues need to be raised, both of which are tribal.
#6. Much of the science is astonishing hackery. "Hide the decline" is only the tip of the ice berg - the entire "Hockey Stick" graph set the (ahem) gold standard for the rewards to be had by scientists willing to flog junk. Indeed, the impetus of the skeptic push back grew entirely from this sense of "that can't be right - good Lord, that isn't right" that to this day permeates the scientific establishment. You can argue whether all the grant funding for "Global Warming Research" is driving this or not, but the plain fact of the matter is that much of the "consensus" view has been shown to be not just junk, but trivially shown to be junk.
#7. It's not science, it's religion. Most people are not scientists, but are happy to get the blessing of scientists that their policy preferences are "scientific". People who think that we should use less fossil fuels will simply not want to listen to what the state of the actual science is. They're glad to listen when it reinforces their worldview, but will have no interest when it challenges that view. And here is Goober's point drawn most sharply.
When the subject of gun control comes up my response has lately been that I'm not opposed to gun control, just to stupid and useless gun control. That either ends the topic or leads to an actual discussion, as I challenge people to explain why a, say, Assault Weapons Ban isn't stupid and useless. Socratic Method FTW.
Maybe I need to come up with something similar for global warming, along the line of not discussing science with people who don't have the slightest idea what the science actually says but who are thoroughly convinced that it means that their liberal prejudices are all dressed up in white lab coats.
But you know how nasty I am. Nasty enough to point out what's going on during the WARMEST YEAR EVER!!!!
A major winter snowstorm is snarling flights and trains across Europe, creating chaos for thousands of travelers today (March 12).Paris is canceling flights, too, and a business colleague is stuck at the company's Paris office. Global Warming True Believers™ will sniff about the difference between weather and climate, and then run off like Chicken Little the next hot summer's day. Like I said, liberal prejudices dressed up in white lab coats.
Frankfurt, Europe's third-busiest hub, halted all flights around noon local time (around 7 a.m. ET) after heavy snow continued overnight from Monday into today, according to German news broadcaster Deutsche Welle.