Wednesday, August 11, 2021

What are your chances of dying from Covid?

Well, more specifically, how do you calculate your risk of dying from Covid?  Aesop has an outstanding overview of the latest actual medical info that you will need.  He approaches this from a "to vax or not to vax, that is the question" perspective but this is a fine breakdown of the cost/benefit calculation process.

The only thing that I would like to see is case fatality rates broken down by age and by co-morbidity presence, but The Powers That Be are not making it at all easy to get data on any of this.  Quite frankly, it looks like TPTB are actively trying to prevent citizens from making rational cost/benefit decisions based on their own current state of health, which makes you wonder what their motivations are.

12 comments:

Old NFO said...

Plus the whole issue of WHAT the people actually died from, Covid OR their comorbidity...

SiGraybeard said...

Dear Daughter in Law is a research chemist for a pharmaceutical company so I know what kind of people are in the trenches and have steadfastly refused to condemn Big Pharma.

However... Management and top level marketing seem to be different than the researchers.

The argument that known, safe drugs are available and are being used effectively around the world but are roundly condemned here in the states is in "things that make you go hmmm" file. These experimental mRNA vaccines are only allowed by Emergency Use Authorization because "there are no alternatives." So somebody has to deny that these old, known, safe drugs are too dangerous to allow. It's not 100% against these drugs because Trump said they should work.

I learned this weekend that the control groups at Pfizer and Moderna were given the vaccine at the end of the trials, so that there can be no long term studies with that control group. The only control group is the "vaccine hesitant" who are being pounded constantly to not be a control group.

It's on Tucker Carlson's site.


https://teamtuckercarlson.com/news/moderna-and-pfizer-lost-the-clinical-trial-control-group-testing-vaccine-efficacy-and-safety/

I find that a voice of sanity on YouTube is a health blogger named Ivor Cummins. He's an Irish chemical engineer in the pharmaceutical industry. He speaks Root Cause Analysis and Complex Problem Solving like we do in the Hi-Rel world and has been talking about these things you're wondering about for the entire duration of the pandemic.


Glen Filthie said...

Pbbbfbffffft.

Aesop's the LAST one you want to see for matters of science and math. He spent the better part of a year trying his level best to whip up panic over the flu, and now he's all butthurt because his fellow Californian retards want to lock him down and inject him with what is basically a placebo. The guy is basically a Karen with a dick, HAR HAR HAR!

You'll get far better numbers from the Z Man or the other rational adult bloggers.

The Lab Manager said...

It looks like the commies at Google have shutdown Vox Day's blog for the moment. It's not been up all day. I hope he can sue their butts in the European court system.

Aesop said...

Glen, if you ever get your head even partially out of your ass, call the Guinness Book. And get the local news over, to document the miracle on video.

I spent no part of the last year whipping up panic, rather the exact opposite. If you could read, I'd send you the links to read those exact words.

But as usual, when the whole world looks like the inside of your colon, it's not surprising you're always 180° out from Reality.

ROWYBS. And thanks for being ad hominem Comedy Relief wherever you pop up. It cheers me no end to see I live in your head rent-free, 24/7.

Ed Bonderenka said...

The question is not just what harm the ChiVi can do, but what the shot can do also.

Glen Filthie said...

What goes around comes around Aesop.

And don’t think you’re fooling anyone with all the tough talk about 4th gen warfare either, cupcake. We all know you’ll roll up your sleeve and take your shot and your coupon for free junk food like a good little Californian, HAR HAR HAR!😂👍

Maniac said...

The "pandemic" and its "vaccines" were a test to see how much of the Common Good (insert trademark here) we'd accept. Suffice to say, we failed miserably.

chris said...

There are many questions that are unanswered with data hard to find or verify. To that list I'd add "what is the VAERS of the second shot vs first?" And also "what is the VAERS of people who had COVID but got the vaccine?" Both of these questions should also be broken down by vaccine.

The CEO of Pfizer wasn't allowed in Israel because he wasn't fully vaccinated. If the CEO of Pfizer is reluctant to get the second shot - isn't it rational for people to wonder why?

There have also been reports that people who had COVID who get the shots are much more likely to have adverse effects from the shots.

The fact that the data is being made so hard to find or being obscured is a HUGE red flag in my mind.

Aesop said...

And as usual, Glen, you couldn't be further from right.
Some people think everything points at Canuckistan because that's where the magnetic pole is.
But it's really just everyone pointing at you, and doing the exact opposite.

Glen Filthie said...

Zzzzzz….. Zzzzzzzz…Zzzzzzz

Glen Filthie said...

I suppose I shouldn't be so rude on someone else's forum. You are at least bright enough to see the vax hoax for what it is, I will give you that. But you are making the same mistake you made with your panic mongering about the chinkypox - you are scaring the shit out of people and goading them into ever more ridiculous heights of stupidity. Guys like you panicked the general populace about the flu and that basically shut down the economy and opened the door for militant socialists to ride roughshod over your rights and freedoms. You were shocked when they came out with mandatory vaxxing. Now you are promising terrorism, guerilla warfare, political assassinations ... whaddya think that is going to bring about, Aesop?

We really need to start thinking before we speak. I know there is a fat chance of that happening... but it is ugly out there right now. I'd have far more respect for you if you got off your duff and actually DID something rather than daring and goading Leftie to shoot first.