— Sal the Agorist (@SallyMayweather) November 17, 2018
I'm so old that I remember when the rest of the country actually believed that California was an example to emulate, not reject with garlic and Holy Water ...
— Sal the Agorist (@SallyMayweather) November 17, 2018
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Why would you not build houses out of stone, with clay or stone roofs, angled into the hillsides so that fire could just pass over it?
Fire is so much a part of the natural environmental process in the west you would think that California would have embraced it.
Stoopid liberal mindset, ASM.
If they ignore it, it will go away....
Wasn't this what happened a decade or 2 ago in Yellowstone NP? In the end they admitted that the problem was that they weren't letting the forests be cleared of dead wood because of so-called environmental regulations? Except there you didn't have thousands of people in the path of the fire.
The first time I was in S. California was for a conference in L.A. At one point I was driving up the coast in the Malibu area when I saw an apartment building ahead. A completely glass enclosed, multi-story building built out over the edge of ocean-side cliffs that constantly slide because they are hard-pack rather than rock. In the whole San-Andreas-fault area. I was already dubious about Californians. That kinda solidified it.
There was a guy living in the mountains above San Diego 15 years ago who got all his neighbors laughing at him because he built a 10,000 gallon water tank on a hill above his house. Feed lines ran down to sprinklers on his roof and under his eaves. The 270,000 acre Cedar Fire fixed it so he had no neighbors left to laugh. A friend here in Montana has a concrete house with 18" thick walls and a copper roof. Fire crews set up camp in his yard calling it the most defensible property in the area. I believe he got a cracked window from the last fire. You can be ready for a fire. You just have to be willing to be called "crazy" while you waste your money on preparations.
What ASM826 and Sherm said. Earth bermed houses are the most thermally perfect structures, and even 'blend' into the environment better than stick-and-panel houses. Mass equals safety from fires, temp changes and such. But you can't cram 60 earth-bermed concrete blockhouses into the same space as 60 McMansions...
As to building anything on a dirt slope in an area prone to flash floods, torrential storms and the subsequent avalanches, well, the people who live there laugh at me for living in Florida because of hurricanes. Which, as long as you don't live directly on the coast, can be mitigated by not living in low-lying areas or in a trailer park.
Rather be without power from a hurricane than be burned to a crisp during a firestorm.
Everything the Left imposes produces the exact opposite of its intended result.
Sorry, just had to say it.
That time was when we had Republican governors, and voted in Prop 13 to limit property taxes to 1% of last sale value.
The Democrat legislature was taxing people out of homes they'd lived in for decades.
This is what 50Y of unmitigated illegal alien immigration, and the migration of leftist toothless banjo-playing kinfolks from the rest of the country to here have done for us.
But fear not, we'll be stone-cold broke in a few years, your cousins will be moving back home, and they'll be bringing their gardeners and nannies in their droves.
And all those CA tax refugees drawing state pensions as retired cops, firemen, teachers, etc.?
When this state goes broke, their pension checks become IOUs, and as your residents, they'll be going on your state's welfare rolls.
You're welcome.
In the 00's, there was a fungus moving north through CA that was killing all the Oak trees. My sister lost all her oaks on her Big Sur property. All those dead oaks in the surrounding forests? Not allowed to be removed (mustn't touch the forest!).
Tremendous amount of fuel sitting there waiting for a spark. The spark struck in June '08. Most expensive fire in CA history, until now, it seems. The fire was so hot it sterilized the soil.
Stupid Eco-wacko fools. Idiots at their finest.
Sadly, the worst is yet to come.
Burned out families now face the rains that are coming. There is nothing to slow the flow of the runoff. These recently burned hillsides are headed for the canyons.
Then, when the clouds pass, the survivors will get to deal with the insurance companies, who will do their best to deny or low-ball damage claims. Even folks who are fully covered for what they've lost will find that they can't afford to replace the million-dollar homes they used to have before the fire.
When they get tired of living in tents, shelters and FEMA trailers, these people will take what little they have left and their insurance money, put a "for sale" sign on what's left of their lot, and they will become Refugees.
Some will head north, looking to find lifestyles similar to what they are leaving behind. Most will head east, to Colorado, or Texas or the Midwest. Way too many will get as far as Phoenix, Tucson and Flagstaff and surrounding neighborhoods. That million-dollar check will buy some pretty good digs. They'll live better than they did on the coast.
They will also drive up property values to where Locals won't be able to afford to own a home. They will bring their multiple car lifestyles and their ATV's and tear up even more of our beautiful desert.
But worst of all, they will bring their Liberal politics (it's already happening; just look at the results of the last elections,) and their "Well, this is how we did it back in California," attitudes.
I have lived happily in central Arizona for sixty years, and I have seen the waves of refugees take the east-bound off-ramps from I-8, I-10 and I-40 after each disaster in Lotus Land. We should have built the wall north from Yuma to the Canadian border. We'd have all been better for it.
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