Friday, March 27, 2020

I wonder if I have had - and recovered from - the Kung Flu

I had respiratory trouble - graduating to bronchitis and then pneumonia - last month.  It's actually been a long slow recovery over the last two months.  Given the reports that Kung Flu cases are underreported by a factor of ten, I am really wondering if I caught it and (mostly) recovered.

I guess the only way to tell is a test for the presence of antibodies and nobody is going to do that as I (mostly) feel better and am (mostly) asymptomatic.  This is a good example of what I've been talking about - the data are notoriously incomplete.

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  1. Several people in my community have said they were horribly ill in January or February but tested negative for influenza.

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  2. About a 5-6 weeks ago I was suddenly wiped out for a few days. Felt like I had a fever too.

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  3. Contrary to the Usual Suspects... it’s just the flu.

    https://wmbriggs.com/post/30013/

    If you can read, think critically, and do math... it’s just the bloody flu. Not to make light of it, it’s a miserable thing to have and can be fatal if you have certain othe preconditions... but the long story short is that we let alarmist morons panic us. And we stampeded like cattle. The beauty of it is that when the novelty and panic wears off, the alarmists will claim victory and take credit for it, while all the while they were nothing more than shrieking hysterics.

    My elderly parents are flipping out about this, and they are scaring themselves silly. It’s all Trump’s fault, MSNBC says so, so it has to be true.

    The way I am interpreting things is that if you have a triple digit IQ and can walk, talk and chew bubble gum at the same time, in a time of real crisis...you are on your own.

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  4. We think it ran though here in January...

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  5. It, or something very much like it went through St. Louis in January. Folks who don't take it seriously have probably never had bronchitis and pneumonia.

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  6. It is just a flu. But the pneumonia that is associated with Wuhan Flu is interstitial, that is, inside the tissues, rather than in the bronchials or alveoli. Harder on the patient, harder to remove, lasting longer, and you can't cough it out like bronchial or alveoli types of pneumonia.

    Otherwise, if you don't get the associated pneumonia, you are just going to be sick like every other flu, and recover.

    Get the associated pneumonia, have damaged lungs and live in a polluted environment while already having debilitating illnesses? Then you have to worry.

    So, yes, you (Borepatch and others) may have had Wuhan Flu, or another one. As it has been shown to be not dangerous for even most people in the primary target group.

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  7. Been three weeks now dealing with most, but not all, of the symptoms of this latest crisis. Since I have COPD and other respiratory problems, it's been rough, but not to the point of taking up space in a hospital somewhere. At my age, most of us know what to do and how to do it to care for ourselves; we've done it before. Should I have seen a doctor? Why expose myself to the assorted illnesses of other sick people, or them to mine? We are retired, so self-isolation really isn't a problem, and the paramedics are a phone call and less than five minutes away. Slowly getting better now. Probably won't need a test, even if they had one available.

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  8. My wife and I believe we had it in the first half of November. I had the worst cold I'd ever had, and I'm 57 years old. Hacking cough, but wouldn't bring anything up. Very tired, slept constantly. It went into my chest, and started to become bronchitis, but I shook it off. I missed a week of work. My wife had something the following week, but not as severe as mine. She only missed one day of work. I was several weeks completely getting over my illness. I saw a doctor, and she was puzzled; said it wasn't the flu. She ended up calling it a virus of some sort, and sent me home.

    I sincerely believe it's been in-country for months longer than is being said. My wife and I would both cheerfully take an antibody test to confirm our suspicions.

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  9. It would be pretty improbable to have it any earlier than sometime in December and even then you would have to have friends visiting from Wuhan. First cases are late October or early November in China. One thing people forget is that this year has been a nasty flu year without covid19 (Xi Virus) coming into play. The first imported cases are in January based on looking at the drift in the RNA of the samples. That would be the WA1 case. The NY cases are Italy via Florida based on the same testing of RNA. Late January illnesses begin to make some sense. February illnesses that look like this sure maybe. Particularly if you got a CT and they saw the bilateral white spots in your lungs. Some hospitals in the Netherlands have started to CT everyone the shows up no matter the reason. "Having a baby lets do a CT" and they have found a lot of cases by looking for the white spots on the lungs whether they were symptomatic or not.

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