tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post8859537453781097311..comments2024-03-28T16:31:54.494-04:00Comments on Borepatch: FalsificationBorepatchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05029434172945099693noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-44748875905281157552011-10-30T11:30:24.355-04:002011-10-30T11:30:24.355-04:00To back up Craig in Texas a bit, here in Florida, ...To back up Craig in Texas a bit, here in Florida, the citrus belt has been moving south for about a hundred years. I've read about grapefruit farms in the Jacksonville area in the early 20th century; today, the Orlando area is on the northern border of where citrus farms are profitable. <br /><br />Just in the 30 years I've lived here, record freezes in the 80s killed off much of the trees. There are some vineyards and grapes being grown in central Florida, with a nascent wine making industry. At least, it's allegedly wine. <br /><br />A hundred years is long enough to separate weather - even the strangely warm decade of the 90s - from climate. <br /><br />Which brings up a point: even the most ardent warmist will concede that the sun affects day to day weather, but they won't concede it affects climate. So where exactly does weather stop and climate begin?SiGraybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00280583031339062059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-84055559500169843562011-10-29T19:41:25.397-04:002011-10-29T19:41:25.397-04:00That's not snow. That's Solidified Precipi...That's not snow. That's Solidified Precipitation caused by Evil Rich Guy's NHL teams. And Deniers.<br /><br />It's a Hockey Stick thing.Sixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05572583408046642437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-77546342429041462832011-10-29T11:41:32.269-04:002011-10-29T11:41:32.269-04:00Craig, the 30 year Pacific Decadal Oscillation sur...Craig, the 30 year Pacific Decadal Oscillation sure maps cleanly into this up/down trend.<br /><br />Rob K, the problem for the CAGW crowd is that the average is turning down.Borepatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029434172945099693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-52547214438268514712011-10-29T11:27:38.235-04:002011-10-29T11:27:38.235-04:00Observation and historical data proves "Goreb...Observation and historical data proves "Gorebal Warming" is false. For example, back in the 1920s and '30s, Port Aransas, TX was known as the "tarpon capital" due to excellent tarpon fishing. This happy time coincided with a general warming trend that peaked around then. This is easily found in the Farmer's Almanac in graph form.<br /><br />The same graph shows a cooling trend through the '40s, '50s, and '60s (remember "global cooling", next ice age coming, etc?), and the tarpon fishing petered out. It was blamed on over-fishing, but the reality is that the water got too cool for the tarpons' taste. And now we've been back on a warming trend the last few decades. Guess what? The tarpon are back! Funny how that works...<br /><br />A related side note: I've lived a stone's throw from the Laguna Madre and the Gulf of Mexico for 28 years. The sea level has not risen at all.Mayberryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07664966137470121099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-73544392574758866802011-10-29T11:21:58.966-04:002011-10-29T11:21:58.966-04:00Weather may not be climate, but climate is the ave...Weather may not be climate, but climate is the average of the weather.Rob Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15604826633798229422noreply@blogger.com