In March of 2020, as the world was getting ready to close the doors and everyone was wondering how many people were going to die of the new virus, a friend of mine that works in a research lab told me that every single person that worked in his department believed the virus had originated in the Wuhan lab. That there was ongoing research in Wuhan on gain of function using coronaviruses taken from bats. That political leaning had nothing to do with their opinions, it was just an obvious conclusion.
He never wavered from his opinion on this. Said everything that made him a scientist pointed to it.
"Ben Hu is essentially the next Shi Zhengli," Alina Chan, a molecular biologist at the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard, was quoted as saying. Shi is popularly known as "the bat woman of China" and led the gain-of-function research at the WIV.
"Hu was her star pupil. He had been making chimeric SARS-like viruses and testing these in humanised mice. If I had to guess who would be doing this risky virus research and most at risk of getting accidentally infected, it would be him," Chan added.
I suppose you could say, like Hillary Clinton, "What difference at this point does it make?" But I think it matters because this kind of research continues and that makes another outbreak inevitable.
The last line is a non-sequitir, and hurdles about 400 assumptions nowhere in evidence.
ReplyDeleteI'm not arguing for gain-of-function research.
Just pointing out the 400' sinkhole in the argument.
But with two major CCP/PLA bio-weapon research labs located right in Wuhan, where the outbreak began, the biggest leap of illogic would have been claiming it was anything but a lab leak of some type.
That was gaslighting of the rankest sort.
Look up Shi Zhengli she worked on this for years at University of North Carolina.
ReplyDeleteLook up papers written by her around this time.
I recently heard on the radio, one time only, that a noted researcher at Wuhan had unfortunately fallen off the roof of the facility. Don't know if there was a restaurant or other facility on the roof. Odd event though if true.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't need to hurdle 400 assumptions. It just needs to step lightly over one. That one is that when humans are involved eventually mistakes will be made.
ReplyDelete"The above article has been published from a wire source with minimal modifications to the headline and text."
ReplyDeleteI notice no mention of Fauchi or similar ilk.
Biochemist friend of mine said the same thing. He knows his stuff, having done a fair bit of the work that years later went into rapid covid tests. T
ReplyDelete@ASM,
ReplyDeleteThat's exactly the problem.
Taken to its logical conclusion, and well short of any reductio ad absurdum, you've just cited Luddism as the pinnacle of society, and its entire raison d'etre.
E.g.: Humans treat diseases.
Therefore, we should abolish hospitals, because mistakes are inevitable.
QED
And on and on.
Cars. Airplanes. Guns. Power tools. Sharpened sticks.
It's the ultimate expression of the "You'll shoot your eye out, kid!" argument.
Times all of civilization.
It winds up holding hands with Greta Thunberg and ZPG, arguing for killing humans because they're ruining the planet. By killing humans.
I'd humbly suggest extricating yourself from that endless logic loop, which was why I brought it up.
If the standard for humans doing anything is either perpetual perfection, or nothing, you'll have nothing forever, and like it.
Shades of Davos and George Soros.
You want to argue that China shouldn't be doing this, because incompetent boobs times lying bastards times mega-sociopaths, there's a case to be made.
Arguing that no humans should ever be allowed to research pathogens, because they're human, is simply the long way around the mountain to sheer lunacy.
I don't think that was the argument you set out to erect.
I think it is becoming pretty clear that the billionaire and elites think there are roughly 7 billion excess people on the planet and they're working on ridding it of the excess. I think Wuhan was one step in that direction but there are obviously many arrows to the string now and so we could see a little nuclear meltdown or nuking of Ukraine plus their bio-labs spreading war plagues all of a sudden.
ReplyDeleteHow did anyone seriously believe that 8 independent research teams came up with mrna vaccines and started using them within months of the outbreak? There is nothing in the history of virology or vaccines that supports the notion that you can create a vaccine without extensive study/time and trials and yet none of that happened a number of times.
Idiots.
This right here is what put the nail in the coffin that it was a plan.
ReplyDeleteIn March of 2020, well before the election, Nancy "vodka in the morning" Pelosi
said this:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Tuesday that America needs to move toward a “vote by mail” system to give citizens a safe way to elect their lawmakers while the coronavirus makes it dangerous to congregate.
“In terms of the elections, I think we’ll probably be moving to vote by mail,” Pelosi said in an MSNBC interview.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/31/coronavirus-update-pelosi-says-country-must-move-to-vote-by-mail-taking-aim-at-trump.html
How did that turn out?
Not a "leak."
ReplyDeleteInstead, an INTENTIONAL RELEASE.
The ChiComs intend to rule the world. And have no more need for extra "population" than does the WEF!
I wonder when this is going to kick in - it has been 90 days after all:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.congress.gov/118/plaws/publ2/PLAW-118publ2.pdf
Jeez are we still talking about this. The interesting conversations are who funded it and how and who were the main movers in the censorship regime.
ReplyDeleteAesop,
ReplyDeleteA nicely constructed straw man you erect and demolish. Not my point at all and you are well aware of it.