Thursday, July 25, 2019

We've Been Played

Here's how the Russians "influenced" U.S. politics.

They had a couple of teams, one feeding information to the Democrats and one feeding information to the Republicans. Ditto for salting information on social media.

They did not care who won the election. But whatever side won, they then provided data on their activities to the other side. Trump won, the Democrats got the information they needed to start an investigation that lead to the Mueller Report. But if Clinton had won, the Republicans would have gotten a similar data dump that would have led them to investigate the Russian influence that had led to Clinton's victory.

The actual purpose was not to ensure anyone's victory. It was to sow further infighting between the parties, tie up the U.S. government and the President, and limit that President's effectiveness and legitimacy. It's a long con based on their understanding of how we run election campaigns and the desperation of political operatives to gain any advantage.

 The battlefield is a scene of constant chaos. The winner will be the one who controls that chaos, both his own and the enemies.
--Napoleon Bonaparte


B said...

BS the swamp would never have allowed hilldog to be investigated

Chuck Pergiel said...

Right on, dude!

Old NFO said...

Waiting for the Horowitz investigation to drop, THEN we might get a clue as to what was actually going on.

Borepatch said...

B, it wouldn't matter if the swamp investigated the Hillary Presidency or not. Putin's intelligence outfits could leak plenty to the press, some of which is friendly to him and some of which (basically everything in Europe) is simply reflexively anti-American. The slow drip-drip-drip of leaks - combined with the swamp's refusal to take this up - would do a lot more damage than an investigation. You'd end up with half the country believing it, true or not.

Putin had it set up so that he won no matter how it came out.

Ominous Cowherd said...

This is pretty implausible. Everything we know points toward Hillary partisans making up the Russia story during the campaign, probably at first to diffuse the likely exposure of her pay-to-play treason regarding Uranium One, then as an insurance policy after the election.

Richard said...

The Russians were probably doing some screwing around but it is nothing compared to our so called allies in the UK and Australia. The finding that Russians were responsible for hacking Podesta and the DNC is unproven at best and possibly a complete fabrication. The DNC thing was probably an internal leak, probably Seth Rich but since the FBI never examined the server and didn't even have the whole report from the Clinton consultants who did, they had no basis to say anything. Podesta is a possible but the security was such that it could have been a teenager in his parent's basement. Again though no proof, only an assertion by a tainted investigator. Russians, along with every other reasonably competent intelligence agency in the world probably did hack Hillary's illegal server but as far as I know, none of that stuff ever made it into the wild.

As always, the biggest problem was the domestic enemies.

Glen Filthie said...

I dunno. Guys like Trump and Putin might be capable of 4D chess like that... but the dummies on their respective teams couldn’t. There’s too much complexity and too many moving parts to be viable IMO.

Ed Bonderenka said...

If Hillary won, no guarantee the Rs would have the House or Senate to call for a Special Prosecutor or investigation, Hillary would have called for neither.