Wednesday, October 26, 2016

The Vatican Tells Me I'm Wrong Again

The Vatican has released new guidelines about cremation. 

I have already broken all of them.

I kept some of my son's ashes. They are in a small metal canister in my backpack. When I go hiking, I carry that small extra weight and remember.

We held a ceremony and scattered most of his ashes in a river he loved.

Everyone in the family that wanted some took a bit.

We still have the wooden box with what's left sitting at home.

No word on exactly what kind of sin I've committed. It's probably pantheism. 


New Jovian Thunderbolt said...

Don't worry, this Pope, no way anything he says will stick. He's not infallible, he's a commie!

lee n. field said...

Cremation was less preferred, but more practical.

Comrade Misfit said...

I guess that makes me a pantheistic nilhilist.

FrankC said...

Was it the pope who thought of this no-no or more likely a bunch of papal civil servant types.

abnormalist said...

I think the money quote is
'"Cremation does not "prevent God, in his omnipotence, from raising up the deceased body to new life," the Vatican says, but it does raise the possibility that the deceased's body, which the church believes is sacred, will not be properly respected by ancestors and relatives.'

Bold added by me for emphasis.

The interesting part of that is the possibility of not being properly respected. As long as everyone knows what it is, and why it is, I dont personally see an issue. I probably qualify as a poor Catholic but I think of the church as a guide, and just like a wilderness guide they are there to show you what they feel and learn as working, and teach you how not to go astray, but as you reach your own experiences you can serve as your own guide.

I am not a guide to others, but I feel you are not treating your sons cremains with disrespect in the manner you are treating him, and as long as that remains true I doubt you will find yourself at issue with the the man upstairs.

As far as tbolt calling the pope a commie, thats some funny sthi right there... I hope that's meant in jest, feed the poor, care for the sick, comfort the helpless and scared. Yep, no future for Christianity in that. Republican Jesus believed in only feeding the hungry who pass the drug test right?

WOZ said...

On a recent family trip to Ireland, I saw one of my cousins pour some of the contents of two ziplock bags at the stream in Glendalough and the rest of the contents at the Cliffs of Moher. One contained the cremains of my Aunt and the other was the cremains of a priest who was a close family friend. Not sure what will happen on the final day when our earthly corrupted bodies are resurrected but my faith says this constituted performing one of the Corporal Works of Mercy...Bury the Dead.

Reg T said...

Beyond the fact that this Pope is a socialist lover of muslim scum, but won't lift a finger to protect the thousands of Christians slaughtered by ISIS and other sub-humans, I remember some of the considerations about bodies and resurrections from philosophy classes: what about persons killed in fires where the body is completely destroyed? Do they suffer in some way for something completely beyond their control (we're not talking about smoking in bed, etc.)?

And I think it might have been Bertrand Russell (collectivist that he was) asking what happens to a person who is killed and eaten by cannibals? OK, no jokes about getting your sh*t together. (Besides, it's the _cannibal's_ sh*t, not yours.)