Thursday, January 27, 2011

Range Report


Greetings from Mrs. Borepatch. I went to the range today, by myself, and had a really good time. Sharp Shooters USA in Roswell Ga, great place, a little upscale, but not over the top. Now, as some of you may know, I am looking for a nice little carry piece, and I was itching to try some things out. I shot a Glock and a S&W M&P both in 9mm. Both guns were new even though they were rentals. They both had their good points, and I enjoyed shooting them, but I had some reservations about each. No question, I shot more accurately with the Glock, the magazine was far easier to load, and the sights were great. However, if I forgot to lock my wrists even once, the thing jammed. The S&W was really smooth and easy to handle, I loved the trigger, and I thought I was shooting well with it, until I compared it with the Glock, and it never jammed once. Unfortunately, the nice man at the range had to load the mag for me. It was a brand new one, and my weak little hands just couldn't do it more than the first time. It was awful, and I was having a terrible time with it. I know they have loaders, and I would have to get one if I owned this gun. Afterward, I went to a gun store and they had a used Sig p232 that I just couldn't keep from mooning over. I know the others might be great choices, but I really seem to have an emotional reaction to the little Sig. So my question to all of you out there is, for about $500, is there any real reason that I shouldn't get the Sig?

18 comments:

Phillip said...

If you can afford it and you want it, get it. If it turns out to be a mistake for you, you should be able to get back most of the cost of it, provided Mr. Borepatch doesn't fall in love with it.

Divemedic said...

If that is the one you shoot the best with, get it. Don't let anyone tell you what the best gun for you is. Only you can know that.

As far as quality goes, I own Glocks and Sigs both. The Sig is a better quality gun of the two. I do not own an M&P.

Mrs. Borepatch said...

It's Been awhile since I shot whith that particular Sig, but I have such fond memories, and I have shot other Sigs and have always liked them.

glitch-man said...

I'd have to agree with Phillip on the financial aspect - with an additional point. Do you want to target shoot with it or defend a life with it? It's a .380 with a 7-rd capacity. My lady carries one like that (Ruger LCP) but only because she won't dress properly to carry the weight of the M&P 9c (yeah, I noticed). And she doesn't go out without me (and my XD40). Even the compact M&P holds a minimum of 9 rds, with larger mags available with 12-rd capacity. I don't know you, your physical or wardrobe situation, or your environment, but everything I've read and been trained on indicates that wolves travel in packs. I'd get the P232 for a back-up gun (as Sig designates it) but I wouldn't want it as my primary.

Now that I've gone and broken the primary rule of "advising" someone (I went specific without including "you") - there are two considerations that negate ALL of what I said:
(1) you need a gun that you can run when you're panicked, in the dark and half-asleep AND
(2) if you'll carry it, the best gun in the world is the one you have with you when you need it.

ASM826 said...

Finally a range report! Next time, pictures.

The short answer to your question is no.

The long answer is no, but after you get it, have it checked out by a gunsmith. Consider it part of the price. Only absolutely rock solid, bet your wife's life on it, pistols should ever be carried. You need to be shooting it, and shooting it with the ammo you will be carrying, until you have that kind of trust in it's reliability, your ability to shoot it, and the kind of familiarity that will allow you to still operate it with the adrenaline dump you'll get if it ever comes time to do so.

Borepatch said...

I leave town and you're sneaking off to the range??!? ;-)

And just to point out, folks, this post was from Mrs. Borepatch, not me.

Mr.B said...

For nearly the same money you can get a 238. Better ergonomics (for women), as easy or easier to conceal, and (usually) a better trigger.

Midwest Chick (nonoriginalrants.blogspot.com)
likes hers a LOT. Try one before you make a decision.

mupedalpusher said...

Go with what feels good and what you like. I had my eyes on the compact Springfield because I have the full size and love it. But, I fell in love with the little Kahr PM9 and just had to have it. That's why shopping is a good thing. Good luck.

doubletrouble said...

Shoot what you like, will carry, & practice with K.
FWIW, Mrs. DT loves her LCP, & I'm fond of the P238.
YMMV.

Mrs. Borepatch said...

I do love shopping. I hope they get more to rent. They just opened and are still getting stocked. Maybe this weekend I'll try some revolvers, and that Kahr. ;-)

ASM826 said...

Try a larger or at least heavier revolver. Starting out with one of the small j-frames and a hot load is a good way to decide revolver are hard to manage. Maybe a Ruger GP-100, or a full sized S&W. Sorry I missed that it was you, Mrs. B, I would like to edit my comment to say, "bet your kid's life on it reliable"...

Jim said...

Pragmatically, if the Sig is the best tool you know of to put bullets where they need to, then go with it. Better seven rounds of .380 you're comfortable with and confident in, than more or bigger rounds at home for any of a dozen reasons.

Jim

bluesun said...

One of my my roommates had a P230, which is about the same gun. Very fun and solid little thing, but if you didn't keep 1) a very firm wrist and 2) a very high grip, it would very consistently stovepipe malfunction. Definitely try shooting it before you buy it.

TOTWTYTR said...

I like the older, third generation, Smith and Wesson semi auto pistols. They fit my hand well and I shoot them reasonably well. They come in a variety of models from compact to full size.

My daughter has shot my model 3914 and likes it the best. Her only problem is that she's a lefty and the safety/decocker lever is set up for rightys. I think you're a righty, so that shouldn't be a problem for you. She also had the same problem with the magazines on my M&P 9c and they are hard to load even for me.

If you can find a 3913, 3914, 3913 Lady Smith, or similar model to try out you should. They are light, easy to shoot, and easy to carry concealed. There are a bunch of other variations, too many to list, but if you email me directly I'll send you a list of models you can look at.

Mrs. Borepatch said...

Thnks for all the comments. Think I definitely need to try some more guns before I buy. I know I don't have to limit the household to only one pistol, but I can't afford a smorgasbord yet either. I know a larger caliber has more stopping power, I've shot them, and liked them. I just don't know about using one as a concealed carry, for everyday wear. Thanks again everyone.

Anonymous said...

Colt is bringing back the .380 acp Mustang, it is a SINGLE action trigger!

George said...

The Sig is fairly large, by current standards, for a .380. The Kahr P9 is about the same size, but is lighter and is a 9mm. It's a bit more expensive than the Sig, though.

If you have trouble with the magazines, take a look at the Uplula loader. It works very well.

I'd also point out that for self defense, I'd choose the gun that I could shoot the best. How many magazines are you going to need to load?

Having said all that, I don't think any of these are a bad choice. It comes down to what you will wear, what you will practice with, and which one you like the most.

glitch-man said...

Okay, I was having a bit of a "WTF" over loading mags. I thought everyone was commenting on loading the mags INTO THE GUN. Brand new mags are stiff. Or they should be, IMO. I'd not want to rely on a limp mag follower spring to defend my life. When that round is supposed to be popped up and chambered, I want it there. As fast and authoritatively as possible. If the mag is easy to load straight out of the box, what's it gonna be like after 2000 rounds or so are put through it?

Sure, it's just my opinion, but I'd rather put a bit more effort into loading the mags than rebuilding them.