tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post2218350315067037595..comments2024-03-28T14:50:06.806-04:00Comments on Borepatch: In which I play the contrarianBorepatchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05029434172945099693noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-57212616689774782782013-01-14T18:16:19.786-05:002013-01-14T18:16:19.786-05:00I have what is both an advantage and a disadvantag...I have what is both an advantage and a disadvantage with regard to what is happening in US politics. I'm in the (what was once) the United Kingdom. I have the advantage of being able to look in on the US situation from the outside. The disadvantage is not knowing over-much of what is going on in the inside.<br />However, I must agree with Borepatch. Whilst everyone in the USA is on one vociferous side or the other with regards to anything to do with gun control, your President (I hesitated when using the upper-case 'P' when considering the present incumbent)is going to be busy making ground to cover his financial disasters. <br />The MSM in the USA is being of inestimable assistance with this ploy. Everyone wanting to make political capital out of banning any form of firearm is helping in the obfuscation of Obama's real purpose which is to hide the forthcoming financial avalanche which is going to hit the USA.<br />How many Americans know that the US dollar is no longer the preferred currency of exchange in most of the sub-Saharan African countries or in the Far East? They don't want the dollar because they, the rag-tag street traders, no longer trust the dollar. That lack of trust now permeates wide swathes of those trading around the world, including Governments. The Euro is never considered as it is soon to disappear. The Pound Sterling seems still to be holding its own, but a wide variety of other currencies, including the Russian ruble (which is non-too steady), are now preferred to the US Dollar. <br />Think about that. The once-almighty Green-back has already lost its premier position amongst those whose livelihoods depend on the stability of a currency's worth.<br />The loss of faith in the US Dollar is what Obama is trying to hide. When, not if, this becomes more widely known, both in the US as well as world-wide, you, in the USA are going to be in big trouble. <br />And it is going to happen.selsey.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12531315051208210724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-60672642784669194962013-01-11T19:10:31.374-05:002013-01-11T19:10:31.374-05:00Gun control is dead in both Houses of the US Congr...Gun control is dead in both Houses of the US Congress. <br /><br />In the Senate Harry Reid is not going to push it. In the House, it is DOA. <br /><br />While Obama might not care what happens in the 2014 mid terms, you can be sure that Boehner and Reid do. Both want to keep their positions and passing incredibly unpopular gun control measures is not in their best interests. <br /><br />TOTWTYTRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17221321904364051792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-18976063955178449612013-01-11T09:02:33.376-05:002013-01-11T09:02:33.376-05:00Seriously? You're counting on provisions of th...Seriously? You're counting on provisions of the (already shredded) Constitution to protect you from a would-be tyrant?<br /><br />Good luck with that.<br /><br />Seriously. I hope you're right. I fear you're not.<br /><br />MMark Algerhttp://www.babytrollblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-22968588856726242072013-01-10T22:44:26.786-05:002013-01-10T22:44:26.786-05:00We can hope so that its all a shell game. The ques...We can hope so that its all a shell game. The question is who gets burned for grabbing the wrong shell if it is a shell game?Jesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17973419641321027031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-43096673840201233392013-01-10T22:38:00.681-05:002013-01-10T22:38:00.681-05:00ASM826, bingo.ASM826, bingo.Borepatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029434172945099693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-42909127027587214922013-01-10T21:48:58.738-05:002013-01-10T21:48:58.738-05:00There may be no pea under that shell. There may be no pea under that shell. ASM826https://www.blogger.com/profile/04017388670319590449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-81806245031396265232013-01-10T21:42:23.643-05:002013-01-10T21:42:23.643-05:00I see this proposed gun control legislation sailin...I see this proposed gun control legislation sailing through the Senate and stalling out in the House, after which, Obama will pen a few executive orders. These, of course will violate the constitution. What I don't see is any backbone in the legislative or judicial branches to provide the appropriate checks and balances to impeach the kenyan imposter when he does so.<br />Then we get to find out how many of the LEOs and members of the National Guard take their oath seriously. This is where the rubber meets the road.<br />kx59https://www.blogger.com/profile/04145047517803465867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-15049006025233829082013-01-10T20:13:56.258-05:002013-01-10T20:13:56.258-05:00Here's hoping you're correct. But he still...Here's hoping you're correct. But he still scares me.<br /><br />Don FDon Fnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-3394574855109053822013-01-10T20:05:27.889-05:002013-01-10T20:05:27.889-05:00Borepatch,
Assuming of course this all is righ...Borepatch,<br /><br /> Assuming of course this all is right by the way of the electorate and of course following the laws. Right now is there anything that's going to be more than a hair brained scheme? Perhaps not but that does not mean it gets play time. I think this is currently just playing the field. After this last year there have been enough "events" that it is very much in the front of America's mind. And yes I'm sure much of it is posing so that they don't have to actually tackle any real work like a budget. <br />Keep in mind that enough people voted for Obamacare supporting politicians in the middle of a terrible economy. This is a concern that enough folks are willing to give up rights as it is, what happens if things worsen?<br /><br />Of a deeper concern to me is this is all a game indeed. Consider that likely nothing will get done with the budget or any other of the fiascoes going on right now. What happens if things worsen, and say in 2014 (Unlikely) or 2016 things are to the point that the Demorats in congress -know- they are getting voted out? <br />Or what happens if so be it, as stated someone does something that runs in to a court challenge. The court is a 4-5 or a 5-4 split on most things of late. Say in the next two to four years a justice is replaced? Or Obama hints if he does not get his way he will add more justices to tip the balance? <br />As it stands now we have several events that should have had people held accountable but no one is doing so. The American people have not demanded it to be so because it just does not matter to them.<br />Even with firearms owners. Look at NFA items, many of those that have them don't care about the law being in place because their firearms are worth more now, or they already have them.<br />I saw a lot of this personally during the last half of the last AWB. "Would you help get this repealed or kept from being renewed?" -nope, I already got mine so it does not effect me.<br />The panic buying concerns me most of all because this shows people are trying to get things done -before- a ban. What are these hundreds of thousands or millions of people doing besides that?<br />Just getting the getting while the getting is good.Jesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17973419641321027031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-82736308834482435662013-01-10T19:06:43.518-05:002013-01-10T19:06:43.518-05:00Well, BP, speaking of false flag operations......Well, BP, speaking of false flag operations......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-89319957178548054082013-01-10T17:01:40.924-05:002013-01-10T17:01:40.924-05:00Are you using the same show your work methods and ...Are you using the same show your work methods and metrics that predicted massive Obummer loss in the election?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-1628581763354309572013-01-10T15:49:31.224-05:002013-01-10T15:49:31.224-05:00I assume he's going to pursue several avenues ...I assume he's going to pursue several avenues simultaneously, and follow up whichever ones produce movement.<br /><br />This is the classic tactic of "throw everything at the wall, and we'll start with whatever sticks..."<br /><br />Early in his presidency, I thought he'd feel bound by constitutional legality. But all those czars, Fast and Furious, and loads of other actions of his have totally destroyed that illusion.<br /><br />And when the next Supreme goes, all Constitutional restraint goes, too.<br /><br />He's a disaster for the country, and the next four years are going to be continual struggle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-78683820834650770062013-01-10T13:44:25.818-05:002013-01-10T13:44:25.818-05:00I don't know BP. IIRC 53 Rs voted in favor of ...I don't know BP. IIRC 53 Rs voted in favor of the 94 AWB. When you consider the 77 (I think) who voted in favor of the Fiscal Cliff Bill I'm not as sanguine about Republican resistance to a new AWB as Chris seems to be. If a new AWB is enacted (whatever form it may take) with the current hysteria added to any new atrocity that may occur it's hardly beyond the pale that outright bans and maybe even confiscation are at least possibilities. You've said it many times; Republicans are not the answer. Depending on Boehner and company to halt anti gun legislation in the House is an eggs/single basket situation. The balance of power between We The People and the .Gov is awful precarious these days. It would only take a small nudge...Sixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05572583408046642437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-84296895169742712882013-01-10T13:39:56.805-05:002013-01-10T13:39:56.805-05:00He doesn't need to pass any laws all they have...He doesn't need to pass any laws all they have to do is keep on raising taxes until you can not afford to buy ammo and have to make choices between food or heat. At that point a wonderful gun buyback program would be initiated with guns for food vouchers. Don't believe me check out your next paycheck it's going to be a lot less with the increase in social security deducted. <br />Such a policy should get 90% of weapons over 5 years, poverty and hunger can be powerful weapons when applied correctly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-57495289831756096542013-01-10T13:27:42.678-05:002013-01-10T13:27:42.678-05:00Heller won't stop anybody.
The 5th Amendmen...Heller won't stop anybody. <br /><br />The 5th Amendment says no person shall "be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law", but the government has asserted the right to kill non-combatants without trial.<br /><br />The 6th Amendment says that we have a right "to a speedy and public trial", but the government has asserted the right to hold alleged terrorists without trial.<br /><br />The 4th Amendment has been shredded with warrantless wiretaps, e-mail intercepts etc.<br /><br />Holder refuses to comply with subpoenas, and nothing happens.<br /><br />So why would Obama be afraid of the courts?<br /><br />As to Congress, maybe you are right and maybe you should review what happened with Obamacare, the NDAA, Patriot Act and its renewal. You have a lot more faith in Congress's fear of the voters than I do.Ragnarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-36075903160461039642013-01-10T12:41:13.222-05:002013-01-10T12:41:13.222-05:00What The Forgotten Man said. The problem is not re...What The Forgotten Man said. The problem is not really that they can get a ban, but that they will continue to push for one - maybe dropping a couple of smaller points as "compromises" - until they can paint the Republicans as "unreasonable". At that point someone will float a magazine restriction and /or a private sales ban and enough Republicans will cave to get it passed. Jake (formerly Riposte3)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02976718318892210404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-34761494975684884012013-01-10T12:22:37.215-05:002013-01-10T12:22:37.215-05:00t's the Senate (and the House). How will be co...<i>t's the Senate (and the House). How will be convince Democratic Senators like Manchin (from West Virginia) to spend his political capital for Obama's sainthood?</i><br /><br />Is this the same Senate that pulled an incredible slight of hand (bordering on outrageously unconstitutional) in order to pass the Affordable Health Care Act?<br /><br />Is what you are pinning your hopes on?Bob S.http://3boxesofbs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-50337932490069324892013-01-10T11:26:59.369-05:002013-01-10T11:26:59.369-05:00They won't get the outrageous items they are a...They won't get the outrageous items they are asking for, but they don't have to. This is their chance to move the needle in the opposite direction it has been going for years. Ask for the moon, and then just calmly say "well lets just compromise then. Unless you are being unreasonable. Obstructionist!" That will get them concessions... to start with.<br /><br />As for Obama not spending political capital on this - He has made too much noise over this already. If he doesn't do something fast, he won't have any capital left to do anything else the rest of the year.<br /><br />Boehner spending his capital? Just find a "reasonable compromise" among the bills and he gains in his colleagues eyes.<br /><br />Remember Obama is the "reach across the aisle guy" and the master of compromise (or so he wants us to think)<br /><br />And then of course there are the local legislators going to town on rules that will take years in court to unwind.The Forgotten Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04824555040471038881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-15598206723985323112013-01-10T11:20:29.499-05:002013-01-10T11:20:29.499-05:00What do you make of articles like this one, then?
...What do you make of articles like this one, then?<br /><br />http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-campaign-for-tougher-gun-laws-obama-and-allies-work-to-tilt-public-opinion/2013/01/09/64b07be0-5a8c-11e2-9fa9-5fbdc9530eb9_story.htmlRGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-88103065491426228732013-01-10T10:04:09.469-05:002013-01-10T10:04:09.469-05:00Yeah, and Obamacare wasn't gonna pass and Romn...Yeah, and Obamacare wasn't gonna pass and Romney was gonna be our new president.<br /><br />It ain't over until the next president is elected and takes office. <br /><br />Until then, it *IS* a possibility. <br /><br />Do't stop fighting it. B https://www.blogger.com/profile/10586046436233366155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-87029511871666405792013-01-10T09:49:13.388-05:002013-01-10T09:49:13.388-05:00The issue isn't Obama. It's the Senate (a...The issue isn't Obama. It's the Senate (and the House). How will be convince Democratic Senators like Manchin (from West Virginia) to spend his political capital for Obama's sainthood?<br /><br />How will be convince Boehner in the House to spend <i>his</i> political capital fopr Obama's sainthood?<br /><br />It doesn't make any sense.Borepatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029434172945099693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-40538747849765378482013-01-10T09:47:05.082-05:002013-01-10T09:47:05.082-05:00I'm more concerned about the idiots on the sta...I'm more concerned about the idiots on the state level than the federal, but I can totally believe Obama is stupid enough to think he'll get away with doing whatever he wants for gun control, after all he got his healthcare package. How well it'll hold up in court isn't likely to bother him.Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11924993310937754220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-2965876608829568102013-01-10T09:45:43.177-05:002013-01-10T09:45:43.177-05:00I would have to disagree, he has become emboldened...I would have to disagree, he has become emboldened and reckless.<br />He will push this, and honestly I'm thinking he is planning on a hot head. Some that will poorly choose to fight now, oh like james yeager. <br />That will be his excuse to double down even more. From there I have no clue what will happen.Charles Lee Scudderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07676996971004586652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-41605578305014799892013-01-10T09:44:37.021-05:002013-01-10T09:44:37.021-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6322916946732811685.post-10796307582749443612013-01-10T09:44:11.473-05:002013-01-10T09:44:11.473-05:00And please allow me to expand: I certainly hope yo...And please allow me to expand: I certainly hope you're right on this one.<br /><br />I agree with you that Obama doesn't want to expand the political capital. Where I disagree, though, is that I think he's going to push *others* to expend *their* political capital on gun control.<br /><br />Obama's done in four. Nothing that happens is going to change that. When he leaves office in January 2017, there's nowhere left for him to go, no higher office to which to aspire. <br /><br />He's concerned, now, about his legacy - he's not as vocal about it as Bill Clinton, but if there's anything we've seen the past four years, it's that Obama is a narcissist to the nth degree. I mean, the man made a Pearl Harbor memorial about him.<br /><br />I think aczarnowski hit the nail on the head: "Healthcare" was his term 1 "success"; he's got his sights on "Gun control" as term 2.<br /><br />Never forget that "universal health care" was widely opposed and vilified in 1993, yet Obama got it passed. As much as we might think that gun control is taboo, no progressive issue is ever *really* dead...Jay Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11085873775096542015noreply@blogger.com